Back in Oxford again... this time with no plans to leave until Friday.

Spent the bulk of yesterday in London having a day that mixed fun and frustration. The frustration part came first. I drove out to Battersea to register with the Battersea Dogs & Cats Home and get the ball rolling towards adopting a new kitten into our home. I may have well not bothered and saved myself the trouble. The Battersea Dogs & Cats Home will not adopt a kitten to us because of an insurmountable philosophical difference. To wit: they will not adopt a kitten to a family that will keep it indoors, believing that cats are "wild animals" and will not be happy if they are not allowed outside. Meanwhile, none of our cats have ever been allowed to roam outside, as we believe that cars and other hazards pose too much of a threat. The "wild animal" argument is bollocks -- you don't adopt "wild animals" into your home. Cats are domesticated and if they were truly "wild animals," the shelter need not worry so much about people who let their cats go unattended[*]. I appreciate that the Home screens applicants carefully to make sure that their cats are going to a good home. However, this is beyond a question of providing a "good home" and is simply them being overly dogmatic[**]. I have known plenty of cats -- including some of our own -- who live their entire lives indoors and are quite happy[***]. No cat I have ever known has been happier than Foxy as she cuddled next to [livejournal.com profile] cheshcat or me on the couch, or Stumpy as she gets her daily dose of scritching, or The Boy just about all the time[****]. Feh. So that was a waste of my time.

The day did get better, though -- that is where the fun part comes in. In the evening, I made my way to North Greenwich to see Roger Waters perform at the Millennium Dome. I have seen him perform several times before -- at Jones Beach in 1999; in Providence, RI in 2000; at at Madison Square Garden in 2000[*****] -- but it has been many years. So off I went to the ugly-as-hell Dome to go to the show. The first act was a nice selection of songs, both from Pink Floyd and his solo work:
  1. In The Flesh (The Wall)
  2. Mother (The Wall)
  3. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (A Saucerful of Secrets)
  4. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Wish You Were Here)
  5. Have A Cigar (Wish You Were Here)
  6. Wish You Were Here (Wish You -- oh, you figure it out!)
  7. Southampton Dock (The Final Cut)
  8. The Fletcher Memorial Home (The Final Cut)
  9. Perfect Sense, Part One (Amused To Death)
  10. Perfect Sense, Part Two (Amused To Death)
  11. Leaving Beirut (not on an album)
  12. Sheep (Animals)
The second act was, quite simply, The Dark Side of the Moon. I have never heard the album live before. It was... spectacular. For the encore, Waters and company played several songs from The Wall:
  1. The Happiest Days Of Our Lives
  2. Another Brick In The Wall, Part Two
  3. Vera
  4. Bring The Boys Back Home
  5. and, to finish it all off: Comfortably Numb
Twas indeed a great concert! The enormous video screen in the back of the stage was artfully used, with a variety of images that enhanced the music. Most noteworthy was a comic-book sequence that illustrated the true story told in "Leaving Beirut." As one might expect from a Pink Floyd show, there was a floating pig above the audience at one point. At a different point -- during "Perfect Sense, Part One" -- there was also a floating astronaut. Very cool! As one would also expect from Pink Floyd, there was an abundance of pyrotechnics on the stage -- explosions, fireworks, et cetera -- and dramatic use of lighting. The most stunning example of this was a gigantic three dimensional rotating manifestation of the Dark Side of the Moon logo at the top of the stadium at the end of the second act... all made out of brilliant lights!

So the concert did a lot to easy the grouchy mood that the Battersea folks left me with, and it made my trip into London worthwhile. I eventually got back to Skullcrusher Mountain around 2am and collapsed into bed with [livejournal.com profile] cheshcat and The Boy soon after. It was a little odd to see Waters perform without The Kiddo this time... but he and I have plans to meet in New York to see Billy Joel's "Last Play At Shea" in less than two months, so that gives me something else musically themed to look forward to.

[*] I have also heard people use the "wild animal" argument as justification before when they are tired of caring for their cat, so they just dump it outside. This is a pathetic excuse for a truly reprehensible behaviour.

[**] Ignore the potential for making a pun here, please. Really, it just isn't worth it.

[***] There is also a cultural effect going on here, as most people I know in the UK think it is weird to keep indoor cats, while most cat carers I know in the US keep their cats wholly indoors.

[****] Before Foxy and Totoro died, anyway. Now that he is alone for the first time in his life, he is noticeably less cheerful. The Boy is a very social cat, which is one of the reasons why I want to find him a kitten quite urgently.

[*****] Where, by some stroke of luck, The Kiddo and I ended up scoring some incredibly good floor seats!



From: [identity profile] ms-redcat.livejournal.com


OK, looking at your subject line and first paragraph, if you're looking for a pink kitten, that is FAR too specific a request! :)

As far as the shelter's policies, when I've looked into adopting cats in the US, many rescue organizations do not place cats in homes where they'll be allowed outdoors. Period. Too much risk from traffic, other animals (yes, this is a risk in urban areas -- think dogs and raccoons at the least), human cruelty, and communicable disease.

I do think this is a cultural difference -- on alt.gothic years ago, there were several ugly arguments on the subject. The list was pretty evenly UK/US then, and that's how the cat lovers split. UK posters: indoors only is cruel, no matter where you live (urban or rural.) US posters: loving cat parents keep their cats indoors, with a few people saying "well ok, maybe in a rural area where there are no predators to speak of. Since those hardly exist, indoors only."

BTW, do they use "natural" and "wild animal" rhetoric to argue against spaying and neutering? Does the happy animal = outdoors animal apply to dogs, rabbits or other animals?

From: [identity profile] anarchist-nomad.livejournal.com


OK, looking at your subject line and first paragraph, if you're looking for a pink kitten, that is FAR too specific a request!

*laughs audibly* Cute! Lucky I wasn't drinking anything when I read that.

No, a pink kitten wouldn't work. Chesh is allergic to pink, dontcha know? :-)

About the indoor versus outdoor cat split, what you write is yet more data solidifying my hypothesis that this is a cultural discrepancy. I myself would fall into the final category of "okay in a rural area where there are no predators, which hardly exists so indoors only."

I very much like the points you raised in the last paragraph. I wish that I had thought of it at the time. Unfortunately, I was too stunned and flabbergasted to make much of a cutting reply at the time. The idea of being declined adoption because we would protect our kitties by keeping them inside?!? It was something that had absolutely never occurred to me!
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From: [identity profile] thirteen-ravens.livejournal.com


From reading other comments here I'm reckoning there is a culteral difference, too. All UK people I know with cats bar one allow them to roam outside (And the one exception is because she lives on a 9th floor flat.) Doesn't really shorten their life expectancy either...well, from my experience, that is. The last three cats we had lived to ages 15, 16 and 17 respectively. But then that's because they were girls and thus dont wander more than about 2 or 3 gardens away. The Tomcats around the neighbourhood, however, are lucky to make it past their fifth birthday because they are too tempted with wandering far away and toward the busy roads...

As an afterthought on predators... our house backs on to farm fields and we get rural foxes visiting the garden - Shanie likes to chase them off! XD Foxes are frightened of cats, generally - There have been several face-offs between neighbourhood Toms and foxes in our back garden recently. The Toms win!

I'll stop rambling now, honest. ;)
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